Shirley Lowery:
I just got up and see that we are being accused of more destruction. As a member I cannot see the mmbers list. Do we have a members with the name COOMBS? If we do he is certainly a stupid son of a bitch to send a note demoting an owner and sending a notice advising of such. I don’t know the story. this is all I saw plus “SHIRLEY’s GROUP” SHIRLEY DOES NOT HAVE A GROUP. SHIRLEY IS A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP. SHIRLEY IS A MEMBER OF SOSEN REGIONAL GROUPS. SHIRLEY IS A MEMBERS OF SEVERAL GROUPS. NOT AN OWNER. NOT A MODERATOR. A MEMBER. THE NOTICE i RECEIVED CAME FROM SOSENSOUTHWEST. ONCE AGAIN I HAVE BEEN ACCUSED AND A MEMBER OF MY IMAGINARY GROUP IS DOING EVIL DEEDS. WHEN IS THIS BULLSHIT GOING TO STOP?
THE DESTRUCTION MUST STOP! THE FALSH ACCUSATIONS WILL STOP! BUILD A WEB BASED FORUM BUT DON’T USE THE SOSEN NAME. AND THERE HAD BETTER BE SOME PROOF OF THE ACCUSATIONS BEING HURLED.
Shirley:
THIS IS THE INFO I SAW AND THE EXTENT OF MY KNOWLEDGE SOUNDS LIKE THE INFO IS STILL THERE.I DON’T KNOW. THE MORE I HEAR THE LESS I CARE.
To: sosensouthwest@ yahoogroups. com
From: “Lois Sandy”
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:49:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [sosensouthwest] Urgent Under attack again
Correction. The address you should use is www.forum.sosen. us
Thank you.
Lois
Linda Pehrson wrote:
Dear Members,
It is with sorrow that I have to announce that we have been attacked again. This time a member of Shirley’s group “john combs” jc1987combs@ yahoo.com went into SOSENdata and changed the owners to members and replaced the owner of the group. We KNOW that it a member of Shirley’s group as they have been taunting us with threads from Shirley’s group. The group continues to
exist, but is no longer under SOSEN control. The only way we know of that this could happen is if someone stole the password of one of our owners and used it to access the control area. This would make sense as to how our National and regional groups were destroyed.Due to the continued attacks against SOSEN, we have no choice but to go to a web forum.
If you have not already joined our web forum, please do so now. You can join from the sosen.us page, and click on join SOSENmedia. You can go to forums.sosen. us and join.
If there are posts in National or Regional groups that you want to save, please copy and paste them in the new web forum under your group.
Please do not continue to make posts in the Yahoo groups, do so in the Web forum. We will not be taking the Yahoo groups down for a few days so everyone can get membership in the web forum. But they WILL be taken down, either on purpose by us, or by who ever did it the first time.
The web forum will give us all more security, and no one can take them down.
Please have patience during this transition. You will get used to the web forum and you will wonder why you ever liked Yahoo.
Thank you
Linda, CEO
Below is the email I woke up to
———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Yahoo! Groups
Date: 25 Nov 2007 09:22:12 -0000
Subject: Membership change for sosendata
To: lindape1ster@ gmail.comjc1987combs has changed your membership status for the group sosendata from Owner to Member.
You can access the group’s web features using the link below. http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/sosendata/
Thanks,
Yahoo! Groups
Beverly Lanfear:
Who the hell is John Combs??????? ?? Who is moderator of this group??? PLEASE E-MAIL ME ASAP!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
Texas Red
We have no member, John Coombs, Combs, or jc1987combs@ yahoo.com!
It is particularly insulting and slanderous for SOSEN, INC. to continue to directly accuse “Shirley’s Group” of all this hacking! We do not even possess any kind of expertise in that area.How do you shut those people up over there??!!
Clearly statements such as Linda, CEO of SOSEN, INC. made, “We KNOW that it a member of Shirley’s group as they have been taunting us with threads from Shirley’s group…”, are in violation of Yahoo’s
Terms of Service for making such unfounded accusations.
Texas Red:
Just a thought here…higher- ups in SOSEN, INC. staff have had a desire and intent to migrate to a web-based forum for some time now. There has been a good bit of opposition from other staff and members against doing so. What better way of quelling all dissention on the matter by forcing it down theirs throats by covertly orchestrating and staging these “hackings”?
It does seem a little far fetched I’ll admit, but if their own CEO is willing to level these unfounded accusations at SOS, then just what else are they capable of??
Product of the Past
Red, I’ve learned not to underestimate the current “leadership” of sosen inc. lately. Their constant slander and hurled insults have made me believe that they are capable of almost anything up to and including handing information about past and present members over to
people like PJ and AZ. I am NOT making any accusations, I’m just voicing an opinion.
Shirley:
Linda put this out about a week ago. It seems to support that line of
thinking. Crying wolf wears thin quickly.
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From: “Linda Pehrson”
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:16:54 -0400
Subject: [sosensouthwest] URGENT
SOSENgreatlakes and other regions OUR REGIONAL GROUPS are now being hyjacked
Come on in to the new group. Someone has TRIED to take us down but we wll not give up. Our members need us and we are determined to be there for them. Come on in and get the support you DESERVE and NEED. Together we will fight on.
LindaJoin our new group
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/SOSEN_ National/IF YOU CANNOT FIND YOUR REGIONAL BOARD GO TO AND JOIN US!!! We can also be found at forum.sosen. us
Join the forum also THAT CANNOT BE DELETED!!!!! ! forum.sosen. us
Linda/SOSEN/ CEO and SOSEN STAFF
Bev Lanfear:
Product …Zman has facts about tsand doing this! Tsand turned crap over to AZ!
Bev Lanfear:
No he was band from there immediately when he started harassing Zman in the forums. Tsand started harassing Zman by personal e-mail. Z posted some of that in the forums until a member got gripey and told him to leave his personal issues out of national, and Zman was put on moderation because of this…or for his own protection. Tsand sent me a private e-mail also right after he was banned because I defended Z. I DID NOT DARE REPLY BACK TO HIM. He has tried twice since to get me to reply back…all he says is “Hello?”
Texas Red:
Zman and Tsand have been at odds with each other for so long now and
have done such things that I would discount anything that either one
claims against the other without some other source of corroborating
evidence.
Product of the Past:
Like i said, I’m not accusing anyone of anything, I just have an opinion of the current “leadership” of sosen inc. that allows for this type of behavior from them. If Z has proof of tsand doing this I’d love to see it and draw my own conclusions. I never said that it couldn’t be multiple people do it either.
Bev Lanfear:
CRAP! It’s on that wikiexposure crap! Tsand posted something in a blog on there! I saved that much but not the exact link! I am digging!
Here is the part I saved! (oh my son downloaded the program on his laptop said he could use in college…duh? I didn’t think about giving him the disk!
Here is the part I copied and pasted and saved. WHY OH WHY DIDN’T SAVE THE DIRECT LINK! I think it involved something are was linked to roar!
This quote is from a post, on this board, on Oct. 29, 2007.
“The membership of these groups consists of cognitively distorted individuals and Sexual Offenders in denial, pushing for change in legislation so that Child Molesters can choose their own punishments and children are made responsible for being abused. These organizations are openly supported and considered by pedophiles to be a “more socially acceptable” front for their pro-pedophilia agenda:”
And at the very bottom of the page, in the response section, we have this:
tsand posted 2hours, 5 minutes agoovNovember 19, 2007 at 1:40 am vember 19, 2007 at 1:40 am
I guess yall know Sosen.US is calling yall “terrorists” ? maybe come Dec 1, Yall could show Sosen who the real terrorists are: Zman, Linda Pherson, Cheryl Griffith, Rod Wagner, People like this that illegally takeover a Yahoo Group, Spew lies/deception, Cause extreme dissension, Put longtime members on moderation, Ban members that did no wrong other than disagree with the leadership. etc,etc. losers!
sandyzlinx
Well, tsand’s post down there is pretty much right, they are losers!
Good job tsand!!! But what is with Zman??? What is him joining, and leaving all about? The minute “lets” came in, zman left. LOLOL are they taking turns monitoring our boards??? LOL
Shirley:
Maybe Bev is the smart one.Rumor has it that that SOSEN has PROOF that COOMBS is part of “SHIRLEY’S GROUP” and he did something or everything to their group. It is more of the same old song from the same tired source and I am not dealing with it tonight. In fact, unless I see something new I will not deal with it at all.
brownbilly68
Tsand DIDNT turn ANYTHING over to AZ. Zman is a cowardly liar.
John Doe
And everyone (and their brother) knows that brownbily is actually TSAND
Nice try.
Tsand:
yes and i was here before yall got tos’ed or whatever and to which i had nothing to do with or with sosenus getting tos’ed as well. And i have defended yall elsewhere. i’m glad z isnt here and i only brought his name up because yall brought my name and his up already.
You think US hates shirley, I think they hate me more! I rejoined US again after they were TOS and I joined Sosen Staff Responds and went in there and COPIED all their lies/mistruths, Then i posted a thread telling them who I was so they could ban me again and they did. Linda and her hiney, They point fingers, Have no problem making accusationss they cant prove! they (US) staff are a worthless bunch of misfits that would rather accuse and infight over seeking the original puropse of what Sosen was setup for. They repeatedly ALLOWED Z to come on National and attack, Yet refused to let me post any rebuttal or defend myself cause I was on moderation. I did tell Linda that she would regret it if they didnt rein in Z and stop him. Then she told everybody in National that I threatened her and I was banned because of it. This was because of Z’s THIRD (allowed) attack. immediately apon seeing it, i called up a sosen staff member, who deleted z’s comments, then i called her hiney up to complain and ask why z was being allowed to violate ploicies? cheryl numbles excuses to me. then i sent the email to linda and she banned me. lots of favoritism ongoing at national on allowing certain members to get away with this crap and i truly depise that kind of hpyocritally attitude. either the rules apply to all or not. so they put z on moderation and he took it to his blog to post the crap instead, which he should of done it before and not muddy up the national forum. then z thinks he knows my REAL identity and he posts it on his blog. the only problem is, he posts a photo/name of the wrong person! i,book38 cheryl/linda/ rod saw it. he is told by staff to take it down
immediately because that ISNT tsand.I bring the above up because yall and sosen have repeatedly chosen to believe everything you hear about tsand as factual and somethings might be true but certainly not all is true. yall on here made the accusation that i had something to do with z getting a call from the sheriff telling him he had to move. i had done nothing and knew nothing about this issue until yall posted it, was when i first found out about it.
i’m only treated as the bad guy cause people have lied and thrown my name around like a piece of trash. NOBODY has bothered to ask ME if these things were true, yall just assume it to be true because my name is attached to it. i’ve pretty much sat back and took the abuse and let it go but i am getting fed up, i can only take so much of this crap, hell, i’m the one that contacted z and invited him to join sohopeful, then he joined sosen. yes z and i were friends once upon atime but no longer. thats how some friendships turn out to be.
i have even corresponded with shirley recently and i am not her enemy either. the best thing THIS GROUP can do, is disregard all the past crap with sosen and get back to the original purpose of WHY Sosen was formed, To fight against these insane SO laws being passed. I’ve repeatedly told US staff this but they disregard the wisdom of tsand! please try and consider that tsand is not YOUR enemy either because I’m not.
Sandyzlinx:
I don’t consider you my enemy. Not at all. I’m glad you’ve not tried to disrupt this group, I thank you for that. I agree that all the problems with sosen need to be left out of here. (I’m sorry I feel I even have to post this)
On a personal note: I find that interesting that you and Zman were once friends. LOL … I knew there was a love-hate relationship there because yall fight so well together. LOLOL Not laughing at you but
the situation and how sad that good friends can’t stay good friends. I feel sorry for the hurt feelings that both of you carry. Maybe some day you two can become friends again. I’m also sorry you were treated like that in sosen, “join the club”.. oops, you ARE here.I know, I know, oh how do I know that a person needs some place to burn the frustrations off. Let us just try to not do it here? We’re all sick of hearing about sosen. It used to be a good thing, but became corrupt and infected. Lets make something a little different and better, ok? Lets make it something isn’t a “chose this side or that side of sosen”, ok? Does that sound like a plan or what? This is a new group who has a leader, cj. He will set up and put things in place when he gets back later today.
Michelle
Okay, this might not be my place to talk —- I really have no clue what happend betwen you and Z but here the dumb stuff needs to stop. Just because you don’t like each other doesn’t mean that we all can’t work together. We should all be adults and handle situation in an
adult like manner. We are all here for a reason and please don’t use what we say against any member. I also ask that you don’t post anything personal about any member here against their wishes.
Tsand:
i look at yall as being the under dogs that have been pissed on lol. Yes, i introduced Z’s blog to sohopeful. then, “hopeso” member called him a “pedo in heat”. hopeso was the fl po they allowed to join their forum and which i had no problem with but we kicked her ass across the forum for saying stupid stuff w/o thinking, like pedo in heat comments. i doubt Z and i will ever be friends again mainly because of his trying to expose my real identity on his blog, which i thought was extreme and stupid, being he is a rso himself but he wasnt doing to protect society but for revenge purposes and that isnt right. its something that PJ would do and a nother rso should never do such to another rso.
i told him many times to stop bashing wasp but he wouldnt listen. tracy golden attacked him and he had to attack back, he refused to let it slide. z tracked down their real addresses and published it.
tracy is a rape victim and here he is publishing her address. a real dumb move based on insulting and hurting her. i did in fact send her several emails and we opened up a dialogue so to speak about so
issues.
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