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They’re still bitching

letsgetreal50
SOSEN Staff
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They’re still bitching.
« on: February 02, 2008, 10:50:23 PM »

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I don’t know whether they stole this from Here or Roar but they didn’t ask me for permission. Nevertheless I stole this from the Misfits site. Obviously they forget the hell we had to go through with all their disruption and National Being taken down blah, blah, blah, blah. Makes you sick just thinking about it.

Perhaps we should just ban Bev. She’s never visited.

Lets

If this were me or probably anyone of us the news would not appear on the SOSEN board. Red, I know you sent her $ in the past. So did I. Bev is right. It is up to those who eagerly took our places.

Beverly Lanfear wrote:

Awe Red…I’m sorry…yeah that does hurt…Nothing like doing unto other’s huh? They are fighting being ousted by society and in turn do it to their own. I absolutely don’t get it, nor do I want to….but what I do get is…How in the hell do you expect to be given when you treat your own as scum…you give scum, you give hurt….you will only be given the same back. (big sigh..this makes me want to cry)

—– Original Message —–
From: Texas Red
To: secondchancesociety @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: [SocialOutcast] Re: SOSEN

This stuff tears my heart out when it is folks that I know. What can
I do when I scarcely can afford my own heart medications?

And then I go to their website and click on “Join Our Forums” (not
that I would) and get this…”Sorry Guest, you are banned from using
this forum!” That hurts.

— In secondchancesociety @yahoogroups. com, “shrlelwry”
wrote:

Some of us were treated extremly bad by a few top people there but I
don’t wish them harm and felt that this needed to be posted in our forum.
As most of you know Linda went to court Monday and was told to pay
up or get out by the 8th of Feb. I’ve have been working with others and
we have a house in Ohio that is legal as far as residency restrictions are concerned.
We need to get them packed up and U-Hauled to OHIO By the 8th.
They have absolutely no money, Linda’s husband is an ASC certified
mechanic and there is a possibility of a job in Ohio. The person who owns the
house is a very active advocate for the cause of RFSO’s but I didn’t get her
permission to mention her name but that doesn’t matter. Linda can have the
house at this point for what it costs for mortgage and utilities.

NOW HERE IS THE EMERGENCY. Linda has to go into the hospital immediately
for surgery. She could die without it. What we need to do immediately is
cometogether on this and fast. We need money for U-Haul, gas, food,
utilities etc. and her husband needs to get their stuff moved to Ohio.
We do not know how the surgery will go. The last operation Linda had
kept her in the hospital for 6 weeks. She has complications after surgery.
We should know by this weekend how things are going and I will be in touch
with her and her husband.

Please give. Also, Do Not forget. E-mail me and let me know who you
are how much you donated and specify that this is for Linda’s
emergency
Go here to donate: http://sosen. us/ Bottom left corner
Lets

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equal justice
COO, Media Director
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2008, 07:54:34 AM »

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I would never have alowed Beverly into our forum. She is a true nut case and a two faced bi*&%. I was very impressed with the fact that they had gotton on with buisness. But Shirley just cannot stand to let things drop. Then there is the topic of a Shirley love fest, just like we used to have in National. Shirley demands it. She must have adoration and lots of it. Not just caring and respect, but FULL FLEDGED ADORATION. Nothing less will do. It is very sad that there are people who fall for that crap.
But there are sick people all over the place.

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letsgetreal50
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2008, 09:25:55 AM »

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Since Bev has never come on why not just delete her account?

If she can’t say anything good, it’s best we disallow her.

I was for giving her a chance but obviously these people will never

stop at living in an illusion

Lets
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lindape54
SOSEN/CEO
SOSEN Staff
Member
Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2008, 12:17:01 PM »

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I’m confused, Where is this from? Who took this from our board? Is Red saying they gave me money??? He never did, and the only money I got from Shirley was 50 dollars to go to WV to speak out of the SOSEN account

OH…BTW I’m HOME!!!!!!! the surgery can wait
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letsgetreal50
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2008, 12:36:13 PM »

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It was either taken from our board or Roar’s because I posted the same in both. Either way, they didn’t ask me, who authored the posts.

Lets
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coolrich001
SOSEN Staff
Member
Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2008, 09:15:29 PM »

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I made a comment about Bev in another thread. It is time to cut her loose, again. She is, I think, Shirley’s alter-ego. Or maybe, Shirley’s secret identity.
“And who disguised as Bev Lanfear, mild mannered nut case…..”

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coolrich001
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2008, 09:16:55 PM »

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BTW, happy you are home!!

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letsgetreal50
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2008, 11:06:30 PM »

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Quote from: coolrich001 on February 03, 2008, 09:15:29 PM
I made a comment about Bev in another thread. It is time to cut her loose, again. She is, I think, Shirley’s alter-ego. Or maybe, Shirley’s secret identity.
“And who disguised as Bev Lanfear, mild mannered nut case…..”

Now that IS funny

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gratefulhoo
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2008, 11:10:22 PM »

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I’m not sure where bev is coming from. She is a bit histrionic at times. I correspond with her some, and she had indicated to me that she planned to donate for Linda. I wouldn’t zap her yet, but that’s just me.

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letsgetreal50
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2008, 11:19:33 PM »

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You made the same mistake I did. You fell for it. She is a bull shiter from the word go.

Lets
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gratefulhoo
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2008, 11:25:28 PM »

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Quote from: letsgetreal50 on February 03, 2008, 11:19:33 PM
You made the same mistake I did. You fell for it. She is a bull shiter from the word go.
Lets

Well, with all due respect, I’ve known her a lot longer than many people here and have maintained communication with her. We just don’t discuss the Shirley situation. I haven’t “fallen” for anything. Bev is something of a chameleon and does want to suck up to Shirley. Do what you want. I’ll continue to maintain communication with anybody I believe is working to further our cause. There are people that I work with outside of this group because they don’t want to get caught up in the personalities, egos, and group crap. They may have the right idea.
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letsgetreal50
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2008, 11:27:58 PM »

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Go for it
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Book38
SOSEN Secretary
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2008, 12:03:18 AM »

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Ok, I made this same statement when I heard Bev joined and I will say it again.

Bev can stay UNLESS she is just lurking…..if she “is” taking posts from our board (and that is the real reason she is here)…..it’s time for staff to vote this one out. We don’t need a special meeting for it, just use this thread.

However……if Lee Lee is right and she is not causing trouble, just being her mental self, then we should have no cause for alarm because Shirley (the ass) cannot take us down over here.

Now that’s not a mandate, just my personal opinion!!

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coolrich001
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2008, 09:15:26 AM »

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I have given this thought and that is always dangerous.
Someone, Lee Lee (?), needs to contact Bev and ask her if she knows who cross posted Lets post about Linda. Also, we need to ask her why she never posts here. She posts in all of the other groups she is a member, that I know of.
I am concerned that if we delete or ban her, we will be playing right into the “other” groups hands. Just a few simple questions should tell volumes about Bev’s intent.

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equal justice
COO, Media Director
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2008, 09:19:17 AM »

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I have a really hard time with people who say one thing to your face, and the opposite behind your back. Those people CANNOT be trusted. I have seen Beverly say one thing to me and to Linda, and turn right around and post ugly things in Shirley’s group. I would not trust her for a second. It is not about “personalities, egos and group crap”. It is about common sense.

By the way Rich, it was Shirley who did the cross posting. There is no way we can know if it is from Roar or us, if Lets posted the same thing at Roar.

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letsgetreal50
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2008, 09:38:12 AM »

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She has spoken out of both sides of her mouth to me. So add my name to that list.

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coolrich001
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2008, 11:21:07 AM »

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Shirley must have gotten it from ROAR unless someone sent it to her from here.
Good reason to go back to questioning Bev. See if she protects her other identity/alter-ego.
Also, I agree that she is a two faced (fill in the blank). It is one thing to be a peace maker it is another to be a piece of (fill in the blank).

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gratefulhoo
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2008, 09:16:38 AM »

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Quote from: letsgetreal50 on February 03, 2008, 11:27:58 PM
Go for it

Thanks, Lets, you are just too sweet to one of the few here who donates money, time, and effort. I feel like my work is appreciated and really want to do more.

To everyone else - I’m happy to try to follow up with Bev, but how would I explain that we know that the info about Linda was posted there? I haven’t mentioned it to her, and she hasn’t said it to me. Do we really want to disclose that we have someone on their board?

It doesn’t matter to me one way or the other whether we keep Bev or not. As long as people (any people) don’t cause trouble, I don’t care if they are here or not. So what if info is copied off of this forum? We have moved most planning-type stuff to committee areas. Other stuff is general info. Whether we like another group or not, we should at least be willing to share basic educational info if not specific plans we have. JMHO.

With the Linda issue, I will have to fess up that I did send that info out through RSO Council along with the Yahoo YoungOnce and Family groups since many of those members haven’t come to the forum. I guess I should have asked, but I thought that we were trying to get the word out. Many people in other groups support Linda and care about her.
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letsgetreal50
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2008, 10:24:45 AM »

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Gratefullhoo,

Just my opinion, but to say something to anyone in that group and expect positive results is delusional. Their latest posts
prove that.

Below is the thread that Shirley started which it appears that she stole it from ROAR.

We, didn’t do anything to them. It was their own words that did it to them. I pleaded with Bev to go to “StaffResponds,” so she could see for herself and she refused because she didn’t really want to know. Now she thinks she is an expert on the subject..

I for one will never forget the personal attack they made on Cheryl in particular. I will not forget the intentional disruption they made prior to the Ohio Rally and the taking down of National and other sosen sites.

One thing I do know, we did not set out to harm them. They did it to themselves and as time goes on they will be convinced more so that it was our fault. The longer one tells a lie the more they believe it until it becomes their reality.

Approaching Bev or anyone from that group would be an exercise in futility. What needs to happen for any of that group to be redeemed would be to acknowledge they were wrong and admit it. I’m not holding my breath for that to happen because they re-enforce their denial among themselves, so it becomes almost impossible for them to see what they did and the vile harm they caused.

As a footnote. StaffRespones should never be deleted. One never knows if they will start their evil ways again.

Lets

Michelle, I didn’t know what you have gone through. I am so sorry.
I don’t know anyone over there I would consider a good authority after being the target of their lies. Bet if we tried to join we would still find daggers guarding the entrance. Nobody has contacted us to say it is over and they aren’t the ones who were crapped on. I hope that all of us here who helped to build SOSEN from scratch did a good enough job that it will withstand.

Texas Red wrote:

I am no longer lambasting anyone either, actually I was never
lambasting, just speaking what I perceived to be the truth. The fact
is that I am still banned for no good reason, so don’t tell me of the
daggers that have been put away. I hold nothing personally against
Linda either, and pray for her recovery and healing for her family.
But what that regime, as a whole perpetrated, I simply cannot forget.

— In secondchancesociety @yahoogroups. com, “brownbilly68″
wrote:

I HAVE IT on good authority that Sosen.us has put away the
daggers and no longer lamblasting ANYONE, including any members
here.
Whether you want to help out Linda or not, Thats your decision. I
knew of her situation and decided to do nothing. Thats my decision,
You have to decide if you want to help or not but please dont
start throwing daggers back at her, NOW. Its time to move on.

In secondchancesociety @yahoogroups. com, “Michelle”
wrote:

I also donated money to SOSEN to be banned from them a week
later.
I also took my own time and money to help send out invites to the
OHIO ralley for SOSEN to turn their backs on us for NO darn good
reason AT ALL. My family and I was banned together to be able to
afford the trip to the OHIO rally but after SOSEN banned me I
called the rally attendence off. I wish no harm on Linda and her family
but I will not waste any more of my time on worrying and trying
to help others who in turn will only hurt me and my family.

I will keep her in my thoughts and prayers and I dream of a day
when we all can come together as one BIG FAMILY!!!

— In secondchancesociety @yahoogroups. com, Shirley Lowery
wrote:

If this were me or probably anyone of us the news would not
appear on the SOSEN board. Red, I know you sent her $ in the past. So
did I. Bev is right. It is up to those who eagerly took our places.

Shirley Lowery
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coolrich001
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: They’re still bitching.
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2008, 12:10:46 PM »

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To Lets and LL
First, one of the people who built SOSEN from scratch is still here, me.

Second, you can mention that I am on their Board. I seldom post, but they must know I am there since they approved me as coolrich001. I did not hide my identity.

Third, I was just making a comment about contacting Bev. I would much rather just let it go. I have my opinion and that’s just what it is. I am sure we have all heard what opinions are like.

Fourth, I knew you cross posted to the Council. I still get their very few posts.

Fifth, we all appreciate each others past and present efforts, I hope. I have the deepest respect for everyone that actively particpates in this fight.

Sixth, I feel like crap and probably will sorry I posted this.

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