Cyber Warriors - a vigilant group of extraordinary individuals

Cyber Warriors - a vigilant group of extraordinary individuals

ZMan!
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Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« on: Today at 01:27:04 AM »

Thought you might find this interesting..

http://www.imperfectparent.com/articles/articles455_1.php

Like watching a presentation of what goes on in a slaughterhouse while eating a steak dinner, sometimes it’s better to live in ignorant bliss. After all, if we spent our entire day dwelling on all the cruelty and injustice in the world, most of us would wind up in the fetal position under the covers and not get anything done. There are those that take it to extremes, and never watch the news for this very reason. “Too much death, sadness and destruction,” they say, “I’d rather not know.” Same goes for the dangers that face our children – sometimes you just want to play at the park, or snuggle and read a book, and not dwell on potential evil awaiting them such as online predators.

But in the interest of child safety it’s our duty to be aware. This new breed of predator has taken away the idea of our home as a safe haven as they infiltrate through the bandwidth coming in from the wall. A child can longer be carefree. A parent cannot rest or be taken off guard. As soon as children are old enough, they must learn that there are people out there that are ready to prey on them as if they were animals in the wild. It’s certainly enough to make your heart ache and your stomach twist with worry. But it also makes us angry. These perverted minds don’t have the right to take away our children’s innocence. They don’t have a right to ruin children’s lives they’ve never even met. These pedophiles have no remorse, no compassion, and only a collective grassroots effort will help shut them down once and for all.

Fortunately for us, there is a vigilant group of extraordinary individuals who offer up an enormous amount of their time and resources to save children from the dark shadows of fear and pain before it ever happens to them. They are superheroes, flying through cyberspace, each with their own unique strength. They are not afraid of these pedophiles; in fact, they look them straight in the eye and say, “Bring it on!”

They’ve been dubbed the “Antis”, as in anti-pedophilia/anti-pedophile. The cowardly online predators have perhaps finally met their match — the Antis have law enforcement and a large host of volunteers on their side, as well as knowledge and resources. The Antis resolve is determined and unfaltering. They work day and night to destroy the child molester’s ability to prey on children and shut down their support networks, and they will not rest until every pedophile becomes the hunted instead of the hunter. So far, they have been wildly successful. The folks behind blogs and websites like ACME Cleaning Services and Absolute Zero have contributed to shutting down hundreds of pedophile blogs, websites, social groups and support forums.

While some forms of pedophile propaganda are protected by the First Amendment, that does not always apply when the websites promote criminal behavior or conspiring to hurt, violate, rape and molest children. Also, since the blogs and websites are on private hosting services, they are subject to the host’s “terms of service” (TOS) usage policies which prohibit certain behaviors.

Some of the more popular sites, such as Perverted Justice, have thousands of members. Perverted Justice is best known for its partnership with Dateline NBC’s To Catch a Predator with Chris Hansen. Perverted Justice has long been part of sting operations in which no children are ever involved. Instead, adults, acting as children, set up profiles and wait for predators to solicit them. Perverted Justice has also recently launched the “Wikisposure Project”. Using the wiki format ala Wikipedia, Wikiposure has categories which include state sex offenders with their rap sheets and full profiles included. Unlike Wikipedia, however, edits are controlled by a select group of people instead of being open to the public, for obvious reasons.

Absolute Zero takes a similar route — contributors write exposés on pedophiles and pedophile websites. Run by some of the bravest volunteers on the planet, their comments section is full of pedophiles putting forth a lot of effort to protest the Antis’ work, with pathetic results for their efforts. After spending little time on the blog, it is clear that the predators are feeling the effects of the tables being turned. To use the old cliché, the hunters have now become the hunted. Absolute Zero has been accused of conducting a “witch hunt”, but this dedicated group remains undaunted.

ACME Cleaning Services are expert “scrubbers” of pedophile porn and adult exploitation websites and blogs. Through various methods, a team of dedicated individuals work tirelessly to take back blogs originally containing pedophile propaganda

When asked about support and obstacles in the war on internet pedophile terrorism, “Rez” from ACME Cleaning services says, “Anyone who supports what we do is helping and aiding us. Lazy, incompetent people who won’t remove pedo[phile] filth are occasionally a hindrance. But we’ve been able to convince a lot of them that it’s better to be on the side of right. We’re still working on the others.”

We asked “Jacey” what made him interested in hunting down predators and pedophiles on the internet.

“I know victims of sexual abuse, when you’re close to someone who’s been abused you’re also living with the after effects sexual abuse,” Jacey says. “When you’ve seen what it does to someone, you develop a pretty big feeling of hurt/anger/pain against people who spend their time trying to legalize this shit - sleazoids that treat the violation of someone else body as nothing more than a joke or an obstacle that stands in their way.”

Many other Antis have also come into the fight after being victims of abuse themselves. One such person is “Violet Leaves”, who says, “I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. I want to stop these monsters from hurting another child. I also have daughters of my own.”

The fight is definitely personal for her — she spends over 40 hours a week on the cause, with her purpose being, “to make people aware of the dangers of pedophiles, exposing pedophile lies, and propaganda.”

The Antis movement is not without criticism. Some look down on what they consider vigilante methods, harassment, entrapment, and violations of free speech. Perhaps Sues, who also puts in full-time hours towards the Anti cause, meets this objection with sobering clarity when she says, “Free speech does not mean free to do harm. Plastering pictures of children on the internet for other pedophiles to use for pleasure is harmful. Encouraging adult-child sex is harmful. Offering ways to keep from being caught by parents and law enforcement, while gaining access to children is harmful. Talking about how sexy a toddler is in diapers is not only harmful, but disgusting as well.

“These are just some of the things that pedophiles do. They claim that web hosting companies deny their right to free speech to talk about raping children. That statement alone shows how wrong they are.”

Sues, referring to her child advocacy work and her website, “Warriors For Innocence was started by my brother and me. We branched out and wanted to create a place that was family friendly in the midst of a nasty subject. Educating the public on how these predators work is so important. It is a large part of what I do. If everyone knew how these monsters operated, there would be a lot less victims out there.

“During my time online I have seen some horrific images of child abuse and rape. It has changed me and driven me to continue hunting the monsters that prey on our children. Those images are forever burned into my mind. It is because of that abuse that I fight the evil that is the predator.

“My reason for doing this is simple and I state it every time in my signature: ‘I hunt and fight monsters. If I can help to get even one monster off of the street and away from kids, then it was worth any amount of effort.’”

Many of the Antis are also contributors to Absolute Zero, which acts as a main hub of information about pedophiles and exposes their communications and multiple identities. Comments are allowed from both Antis and pedophiles, which creates a unique and sometimes compelling environment. Many pedophiles post under the guise of wanting to help or of being an Anti themselves — this ruse rarely lasts very long, however, as the Absolute Zero contributors and followers are astute and expose them before they have a chance to be taken seriously. The site owner, “Stitches”, is a master of cyber-detective work, putting pedophiles on notice and educating the public while briefing her legion of dedicated writers and volunteers.

These sites are not for the faint of heart — they are full of truth and facts that most parents would rather not know. It is stuff that nightmares are made out of, yet this group of very special people are not afraid. They’ve made a pledge to fight for the “safety and emotional well-being of all children” and will not rest until the war is won. The world is a safer place due to these extraordinary individuals, and as parents we should be grateful for the work they do and hopefully have a new appreciation for great deeds that never get the full attention they deserve.

fallenone
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Re: Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« Reply #1 on: Today at 01:30:50 PM »

And who did they pay off to promote this crock pot of shiitake mushrooms?

equal justice
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SOSEN Staff
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Re: Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« Reply #2 on: Today at 02:08:04 PM »

Maybe it is run by one of them. Have you ever even HEARD of the imperfect parent before?

fallenone
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Re: Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2008, 10:40:44 AM »

I believe AZ’s efforts are nothing more than propaganda– Ironically, they run sites called girl/boychat and other pedo sounding sites. They create their own blogspots, claiming that sight was once a pedo site. Essentially they are using the strategy from the movie, “Canadian Bacon,” in which they are creating a fake war for the sake of popularity. I found a blogspot called “monsterinthecloset” or something like that, and it has the absolute zeroes retarded template and the bold claim that blogspot was once a pedo site. Yeah, right. And Saddam had “weapons of mass destruction.” I don’t respect absolute zeroes et al because they make up stuff to justify their own sick sadistic pleasures.

REALITY CHECK:

Some blogs are available in Webarchive

Original Site - Visit with Caution
Current version - Hijacked by Anti’s

Original Site - Visit with Caution
Current version - Hijacked by Anti’s

Original Site - Visit with Caution
Current version - Hijacked by Anti’s

Original Site - Visit with Caution
Current version - Hijacked by Anti’s

Original Site - Visit with Caution
Current version - Hijacked by Anti’s

Original Site - Visit with Caution
Current version - Hijacked by Anti’s

static
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Re: Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2008, 09:23:56 PM »

It’s pretty obvious to anyone who really checks them out, that they’re not interested in protecting kids, raising awareness, or anything else noble. Those things- if they happen at all- are just collateral benefits to their real passion.

Think about it- they aren’t wrong when they say that there are “pedos” on the web, talking about and sometimes attempting to harm kids. So, if that’s true- why do they bother with us? I see no one here doing any of those kinds of things. Our purpose is nothing like those kinds of sites (see notice at top of page). I can understand how- given the AZ world-view, they would see us as the enemy, but if their primary goal is protecting children, wouldn’t going after the people actually attempting to harm a child now be the first priority? But it’s not- discrediting us is their first priority. In fact, most of the time, they only really mention the truly dangerous sites when they try to somehow connect them with us. So, Az says there is an “epidemic” of online pedophile sites, online predators, kiddy-porn rings, but somehow we are their number one enemy… Doesn’t quite add up, unlesss they’re just full of crap to begin with.

This is all I’m writing about AZ for awhile- I’ve noticed they’re getting a lot of undue attention on the forum lately, and I don’t know why this new panic is taking hold of all of you. The best way to deal with them is to ignore them. Besides, it’s not like they’ve even accomplished much lately. They’re too busy trying to figure out how to save themselves in court. Let ‘em fade into obscurity- it’s more than they deserve.

robin2005
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Re: Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2008, 02:29:42 PM »

I agree with EJ… Superheroes? LOL I just got a mental image from the movie “The Incredibles” where the little costume lady refuses to make a cape for Mr. Incredible because of all the superheroes who met their demise when their capes got sucked into airplane engines, caught on a skyscraper..etc… laughing7

Harvardphd123
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Re: Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2008, 08:43:13 PM »

That article is the biggest load of crap I’ve smelled in a long time.

ZMan!
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Re: Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2008, 10:14:09 PM »

The way I see it, their intentions are good, to shut down true pedophiles and child porn sites, but they do not do that. They target ALL sex offenders, claiming they are all pedophiles and support pedophilia, which we all know is a load of BS.

Other states have proves their own police force can do this, so why do we need vigilante groups like PJ or AZ, etc doing this? Because I think they police are USING them as proxies. So if something goes wrong, the vigilantes get sued instead of the police force. Someone else to blame instead.

If they would stick to their original intentions, then IMO, it’s good. But the way they do it is not.

static
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Re: Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2008, 11:30:06 PM »

I’m probably going to get yelled at by someone for this, but here goes:

I’ve seen how AZ, et al, “outs” certain pedophile sites like boychat, nambla, etc. A lot of people aren’t aware of these kinds of sites, even the ISP in some cases. If all the vigilantes ever did was help get rid of sites like that, I’d support them to my dying breath. The problem is that these groups aren’t satisfied with only going after online predators and pedo-propaganda- they deem anyone who disagrees with them “pedophile” or “pedophile enabler”. And even then- if they had evidence to back up their claims, I’d support them. But I’ve seen too many instances where someone who disagrees with them is subject to their on- and off-line harassment, with no evidence of any wrong-doing, other than whatever the “editors” of wikisposure feel like writing about them. To be fair (and they don’t deserve fairness, considering the lack of it in their dealings with others), they have run a lot of “critters” off the net- and that’s a good thing. But then they lump everyone they wish to harm into the same catagory as the real creeps.

There are many serious problems with the way these groups operate which, if detailed, would fill a library. But a few are:

They use the same “ends justify the means” excuse that has been used by most evil people since the dawn of time, thus destroying any credibility they may have had.

Groups like this foster an “us versus them” mentality, which eventually grows to include, not just their stated targets, but anyone who dissents from the prevailing group orthodoxy. (This is a major problem with the collectivist mentality as a whole, btw)

In the process of gaining power and recognition, they inevitably must add more and more “enemies” to their lists. Otherwise, what would they do if they ever won- just pack up and go home?.. Not likely…

There is a certain arrogance involved in casting yourself as judge, jury, and executioner- which leads to an overall increase in neuroses, combined with an over-inflated ego (not a good combo- in fact, not all that different from the “monsters” they claim to fight). Any RSO who has been through treatment can tell you about all the distorted thinking that must occur before an otherwise normal person can commit an offense. The vigilantes aren’t immune from the same screwy thinking as a rapist before he commits the crime. In fact, the thinking patterns are essentially the same… and equally dangerous to society. One person manifests his messed-up thinking sexually, another decides to harm others under the guise of “protecting” someone or something. Mentally, they are much more alike than different. This is one of the primary reasons I’m against these people. Anyone who’s been around here very long knows I’m a stickler about not getting into screwy thinking, and quick to respond to a member who demonstrates it. Why should the vigilantes be immune from being questioned on their own “distortions”? It is good, both here and in socety, to point out distorted thinking. I don’t like it when it appears on this forum, and I don’t like it when it is held up as some sort of heroic deed.

IMO, the only real difference between these so-called “heroes” and a SO about to re-offend is that the SO doesn’t have some numb-skull, like the author of the above article, to applaud their offense. People like that are enablers, just as much as a parent giving silent assent to the victimization of their child.

Perhaps, along with “pedo-enabler” we need a word to describe “online, arrogant, harassing, abusive nut-case enabler”? Oh yeah, there is a word for it– “moron”.

This is obviously from a small site that either doesn’t check their facts, or is run by the viilantes. I’m not giving it any more attention… What the rest of you do is your business.

(and to the trolls- feel free to quote me)

oldman_inmaine
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Re: Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« Reply #8 on: Today at 12:40:12 AM »

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There is a certain arrogance involved in casting yourself as judge, jury, and executioner- which leads to an overall increase in neuroses, combined with an over-inflated ego (not a good combo- in fact, not all that different from the “monsters” they claim to fight).

I agree with just about every thing you wrote, I to see the same behavior in the “monsters” they take aim at. This group seems to be thinking like Pol Pot, and stating ” My conscience is clear”. While given orders to cleans the earth of the his monsters. BangHead

static
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Re: Cyber Warriors - A new breed of superheroes battle online child predators.
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2008, 11:24:26 PM »

Speaking of the “superheroes”- March 14th is Stitches’ 33rd Birthday. Everyone be sure to wish her a happy birthday if you run into her… she needs all the “good will” she can get…