Friday, September 12, 2008

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely

lindape54
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You all got the email from Cheryl At her request here are the posts she deleted
Lobster GO TO BED!!!

Letsgetreal

Re: Just a warning
« on: May 25, 2008, 08:02:26 PM »
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I’ve read so many times on this forum to just ignore them. When will we learn???

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Letsgetreal

Re: Just a warning
« on: May 25, 2008, 08:49:41 PM »
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Sorry Z, I keep myself busy doing better things than learning how to joust with a bunch of a$$ holes. Truth and common sense wins every time. They have neither.

I’ll just ignore them. They cross the line, I’ll sue.

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Letsgetreal

Re: Just a warning
« on: May 26, 2008, 12:08:14 AM »
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I would like to know who deleted my two (2) posts in this thread and WHY?

Feel free to PM me.

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Topic: EXTREEMLY IMPORTANT!!! (Read 10 times)

Letsgetreal

EXTREEMLY IMPORTANT!!!
« on: May 18, 2008, 09:35:50 PM »
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It has been brought to my attention that -http://www.sexoffenderalliance.com/ is a PJ site. BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!

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flowergirl_1970
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Lets???
« on: May 27, 2008, 08:37:45 AM »
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Does anyone know what happened to Lets? I tried to email him this morning and his account is gone from SOSEN? Does anyone know if he’s ok?

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lindape54
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 10:53:03 AM »
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He is OK He wants to focus on his site I think

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flowergirl_1970
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 11:09:46 AM »
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I’m glad he’s ok!!!! He made some wonderful contributions here!!!!! I hope he comes back
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tikibug
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2008, 02:20:06 PM »
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Hi Flowergirl,

Lets is gone cause his posts yesterday were deleted and he was accused of soliciting his website (his words). I believe he was just trying to get attention to the Oklahoma forum as its important next year we show up at the capital and speak before the next AWA bill passes.

I’m a firm believer against censorship as I have seen the laws surrounding RSO’s destroy lives and hope this stops immediately.

Lets is a valuable member of this forum and hope whomever runs this will realize their mistake and ask him to rejoin.

We as a group are strong but we must also begin to fight these laws through our residence location and therefore need to network with state sites. Lets has great ideas and is a hard worker for our joined cause and will be sorely missed on this forum.

Bug

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equal justice
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2008, 02:32:09 PM »
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I was afraid this thread was going to devolve into a SOSEN bashing thread.
Lets left because Lets wanted to leave. No one forced him to. He has been asking for his membership to be deleted for weeks now and Linda refused.
Now, I think that we ALL know that there are 2 sides to every story. SOSEN does not believe in whining and complaining about its members on the forum, and it would be nice if the members could have the same courtesy.
I have NO doubt that Lets will be contacting many members personally to tell HIS view of what has been going on. Please remember that it is ONLY HIS view and not the whole story.
There are lots of things I could say here, but I will not stoop to that level.
Yes Lets was a valuable member. There were many good things about him and he will be missed.
SOSEN made it possible for him to create his own site, and learned everything about being an advocate that he knows from SOSEN.
So now he will go and do his own thing where he can run the show any way he see’s fit. That is fine. It is his right. SOSEN has no problem with that. But just remember, please, that it was HIS decision.
Lets knows darn well that we do not allow people to stump for their own forums here, we do not allow solicitation of donations for another forum or Web site, and that is exactly what he did. He would be the FIRST to jump up and down and scream if someone else did that. It is not censorship, it is common sense.

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fallenone
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2008, 02:46:23 PM »
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I hope this message is well received without thinking I’m just trying to stir up stuff, but in all fairness, many of us who post up here and at other places work on other sites. I have myown site, on administration at Rights and Law, hang out at Roar chat, direct videos for SO Clear, and still have time for the occassion troll hunt LOL. And when I have a new article of importance, I cross-post. I think having a number of sites is okay, because I feel we need to saturate the net withthem, so there’s an increased chance we will reach those seaching for support. Many others of us own our own sites or blogs. We will ALL have our differences at times, but the most important thing is when it comes time, we can all stand as one! Hope that helps.

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tikibug
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2008, 02:58:07 PM »
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Hi,

I am not bashing SOSEN I think this forum is very helpful to many members who are looking for information. I was simply stating he did not leave to focus on his site only.

And this forum, in my opinion, did notmake him become the advocate he is it simply enhanced those qualities and skills to speak out about the laws which are ruining our loved ones lives and ours.

He truly will be sorely missed and hopefully he will come back. Any good organization takes patience and acceptance everyone has a opinion, and even though we may not always agree, the fact is we need him like we need this forum cause its a place of valuable resources but friendships and support.

Hopefully, with time the head of this forum and him can work things out for the benefit of the members here who look for strong leadership to guide us;)

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tikibug
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2008, 03:06:57 PM »
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Well said Fallen indeed in the end we all stand as one cause united we stand in this fight.

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flowergirl_1970
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2008, 03:11:32 PM »
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EJ: I had no intentions of turning this into a “SOSEN bashing thread” and let’s try not to turn it into a “Let’s bashing thread” either please. I do not see 1 post on here that is a “bash” against SOSEN, just people speaking their minds and using their voices. Word choice is important

I also agree with Fallenone - there is no shame in promoting your own advocacy work as many do it here all the time. The more effort in working towards 1 goal, the better.

I too hope he comes back … he was one of the most active members of SOSEN and his heart is in the fight.

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billm
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2008, 03:36:26 PM »
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I could start my own state site too, but I feel it’s more important to fight for the rights of all RSO’s of all ages, in all states. That is being united.

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tikibug
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2008, 04:09:24 PM »
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Hi BillM,

Exactly, what is this forum doing Nastionally? We share information here and yes its important to fight these laws at a national level but as well as statelevel where members can join forces and rally to their particular state capital to stop the AWA passage which the deadline is next year to comply.

Everyone here fights at their state level as well as National.

Example, the Ohio rally was about the state of Ohio not a national rally. And many from the other states attended this to support Ohio families and members.

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lindape54
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2008, 04:13:17 PM »
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I like Lets. I STILL consider him a friend. He deleted his account because he wanted to. If he wants to come back he will be welcomed with open arms.
You guys all know me. I work with ALL the other groups. In fact the 800# I am working on is with the help of different RSO agencies and advocates.
The truth is the buck stops with me. We cannot let the forom be a free for all. Look at SOA.
Linda

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equal justice
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2008, 06:18:39 PM »
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As I said in my first post, SOSEN does not bash its members. I did not and I will not.
Bugs statement:I’m a firm believer against censorship as I have seen the laws surrounding RSO’s destroy lives and hope this stops immediately. Lets is a valuable member of this forum and hope whomever runs this will realize their mistake and ask him to rejoin.
is what I was talking about.
As everyone here knows, most of us are members at multiple sites. Our members here promote their own sites with each post they make that has their own site in their signiture line. We have worked very closley with SOclear. We work with other groups.
There is no problem. Fallen one frequently refers to his site as does Zman. Lets had posted multiple times about his site and had the address under his avitar and in his sig. Gee one does quickly forget these bothersome FACTS. The issue with Lets yesterday was different. I am sure he understands that.
Linda’s reference to what happened at SOA is a perfect example. It is not censorship, it is common sense.
If Lets chooses to come back he is most welcome. It was his choice to leave and his choice to come back.

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tikibug
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2008, 06:27:48 PM »
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Linda you are a blessing to have as CEO on this forum and you are great. The work you do is amazing and greatly appreciated by all.

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flowergirl_1970
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Re: Lets???
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2008, 06:34:22 PM »
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Actually Cheryl, you are bashing (whining and complaining; Lets will contact other members; gee how quickly we forget the bothersome facts). I respect your work and your position at SOSEN, but sometimes its best to put these kinds of things in a PM or just let it go.

Now, I’m locking this thread because it seems to have gotten a little off my original topic and a bit too personal.

equal justice
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My resignation
« on: May 29, 2008, 02:58:03 PM »
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I have been under attack from Lets get real for something that I did not even do for a while now.
He has been having a temper tantrum ever since his OK symposium did not go the way he wanted. Then he got FURIOUS because he had stopped coming to staff meetings for months in protest so he did not know that we were trying to get a new BOD member. SO when someone else got the position, Lets in his power hungry RAGE took it out on me simply because I was the one who posted the information about the new BOD member in Staff. We all have one vote. ME, Linda, EVERYONE!
But you cannot vote if you don’t bother to attend any staff meetings “in protest”.

Lets started a very hateful smear campaign against me and when he did not get the support of other staff members he quit staff.

Then when he was asked to stop certain behaviors on the forum…he quit the forum. But this did NOT stop him in his vicious slander of me. Well, Lets and Flower girl are good buds, so now she has started on me. This has been going on for only about a week now.

I just got finished with a HUGE battle, for which I have many battle scars, over on SOA when the Anti’s were allowed in and they were bashing sosen and Linda. I stood up and FOUGHT against each and every slander. It earned me a front page on AZ’s site and a pledge from Stitches to start a coup against me here at SOSEN.

I guess she did not have to because Lets in his manipulative way has been very successful at it himself.

I cannot be effective in my position here if our own CEO will not stand up for me against people who are attacking me and twisting my words. As a COO I can’t even defend myself because we are not supposed to put that stuff on the boards.

I have asked FG to take it to a pm, Lets has been warned about instigating, but our CEO decided that it was ok to attack as long as it was not SHE who was being attacked.
I am DONE!

I quit. I will not leave the forum because there is useful information here. I will continue my fight on my own.

There will NOT be an article in ATSA about SOSEN. I will write one about my own issues. I have been forced to stand on my own so on my own I will stand.

This is such a shame that a disgruntled unstable member is allowed to do all this damage. I would never have believed it, but it has indeed happened.

I do hereby resign as COO, Media Director and Staff Member.

Letsgetreal I DO WHAT I DO just go ahead and keep doing what you do, Flower girl you can stop with the twisting my words.

Lets, you SAID you wanted me gone, you got what you wanted. You have been able to do what Shirley could not do and what Stitches and the entire Anti’s could not do. I hope you are quite proud of your efforts. I do not have the energy left after the hours I spend on SOSEN and my advocacy and dealing with the Anti’s to deal with your crap too.

I have been holding off on making this post all day, I keep checking the forum over and over again to see if Linda is going to stand up for me, if something is going to happen besides slamming and pitiful excuses. It has not happened.

It has been wonderful serving you all and I love you…

equal justice
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Re: Topic: “I Do What I Do”
« on: May 30, 2008, 12:30:23 PM »
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Gee Lets, I am so glad you explained that because from the Angry staff contact you sent upon being so graciously accepted back into the forum after quitting in a tantrum when Linda deleted your post, refusing to apologize for all the mistatements you made about me and other staff members,or your aggressive behavior, it looked to me and to others like a real “in your face” kind of statement.
I thought your “statement to live by” was Get er done!
Oh but Linda will very quickly delete this post because it speaks the TRUTH about what your I DO WHAT I DO statement says.
Because it tells just a speck of what you have been doing to others and it seems that now YOU are the only one who is allowed to speak his mind on this forum…not me.

lindape54
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Re: Deleted Threads and posts
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2008, 03:06:49 PM »
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Author Topic: CFCOKLAHOMA (Read 11 times)

Letsgetreal
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CFCOKLAHOMA
« on: May 26, 2008, 06:53:12 PM »
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There are now new features on the “Home Page.” www.cfcoklahoma.com One can sign up to “Comment” on articles without joining the Forum.

There is also a “Donate” through Pay Pal. Hopefully, some day soon there will be enough donations so the site will pay for itself and upgrades to increase the bandwidth. That will be great for Audio and Video.

Anyone have any good ideas, we’re open to your suggestions.

Also, and this is very important. Members from Oklahoma. next year when new bills go before the state Legislature, we will be going to speak before the house. They will let everyone speak and give at least 5 minutes per person.

This is something to consider. We have plenty of time. If your from Oklahoma and not a member of that forum, please join so when the time comes we can put our heads together and come up with solutions. So far I know of 3 who are going. How about YOU. -http://cfcoklahoma.com/forum/index.php.

The forum is looking great. Colors to chose from and alot of info.

lindape54
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Re: Deleted Threads and posts
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2008, 03:09:46 PM »
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I DELETED THIS ONE

Topic: Confrontation vs. conversation (Read 148 times)

transitions
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Confrontation vs. conversation
« on: May 27, 2008, 10:42:22 AM »
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We are all here for different reasons, and have many different points of view. During a forum setting there tends to be some issues with how a person interprets what someone has posted. I am guilty of this myself. Words on a page can not express an emotion or the intent of the person reading the post. One of the biggest issues is not understanding if a poster is attempting to engage in conversation or if their post was a confrontation. I was curious about learning how to better address a subject so it would offer the reader a clearer perspective of what the intent of the post is. Any ideas?

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flowergirl_1970
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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 11:13:01 AM »
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Use emoticons!!!!!!!! For example:
A. I think you are wrong and completely disagree with you
vs

B. I think you are wrong and completely disagree with you

The person reading “B” might not be as offended or get on the defensive with happy emoticons vs how one might respond to “A” (does this example work at all?!? ).

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equal justice
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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 11:26:24 AM »
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Exactly Flower!
That is why we have so many emoticons on SOSEN.
They can put in to a message what reading black words takes out.
I try to use them often.
A wink or the dripping sarcasm tells one immediately what’s up.
I love emoticons, not just because they are cute but because they fill a need.
Another thing you can do, is if you think someone is being harsh or misunderstanding you, send that person a pm instead of escalating on the boards.
That’s not our first impulse. The first impulse is a nasty reply on the boards. We can, however, control our impulses, at least most of the timme

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2008, 11:44:33 AM »
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I will take emotion 101 later today. For know I need to ; and fix me.

This entire thing hit a little to close to my heart

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2008, 01:40:02 PM »
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Thanks for the phone call equal, I am feeling much better. You are a good friend!

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2008, 01:43:28 PM »
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You too Trans… ((((group hug))))

gotta love those emoticons!

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2008, 02:36:39 PM »
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There will always be times someone posts somthing out that makes me want to but we have to remember that everyone has their own ideas about how things should be, but as long as they don’t resort to FU Pedo, then there is hope for a sharing of ideas.

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tiggeronmv
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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 12:52:39 AM »
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Everything we already know, we know.

We only can learn more from others.

I like this forum a lot. You are all becoming my second family. Yes, even in families we have disagreements, but we are held together by love. Here, we must remember that we are held together by purpose, and yes some love too.

Has something happened to Lets? There was a comment yesterday or the day before that some of Let’s posts had been deleted, and I haven’t seen any more postings since.

We count on staff keeping this forum orderly and we don’t need to know all the details of staff decisions. But, we don”t want to lose contributing members, so when a problem comes up, and they will, staff should privately contact the member and work things out in a way that brings unity.

In His service,
Tiggeronmv

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 01:26:54 AM »
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That’s why I love you so much Flower. Common sense.

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 09:37:31 AM »
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Confrontation and an “I am right and you are wrong” attitude does nothing constructive what so ever.
We get enough grief in our daily lives from society and the Anti’s that we do NOT need to subject each other to it on SOSEN.

I have seen what has happened to other forums when harsh words and playing games are tolerated. The forum closes.
This will NOT happen to SOSEN. If we have a member who is identified as causing frequent problems and is found to be game playing they will be given a chance to rehabilitate, and if it continues, they will be shown the door.
We are NOT into censorship here at SOSEN. I think we have all seen how open this forum is. For the sake of the entire forum and each member we cannot allow miscreants to cause disruption.
There have been many threads discussing the intention of SOSEN to try to clean out the spies from this forum.
One of the ways you can help us is if you have gotten or do get pm’s from any member that is slandering SOSEN or members of SOSEN, please use the contact staff button and let us know. This is VERY destructive behavior and has far reaching effects.
No one is doing this forum good by trying to stir up trouble behind the scenes. I am not talking about the occasional pm just complaining about “did you see what so and so said!”. I think you can understand what I am talking about.
If you think something subversive is going on, please let us know.
We must not let the Anti’s or anyone else succeed in causing us to get side tracked from our mission or break up the family that is SOSEN

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 09:57:37 AM »
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I agree completely with you EJ. But in any organization, people will gripe about how things are being run and about who’s running it. You can’t have an organization in which 100% of the people are happy about the way things are being run. It is VERY important for members to observe and act on their right to openly and honeslty voice their opinions about the direction of SOSEN and they should be able to do this without being labeled a trouble-maker or running the risk of having their posts/threads (or memberships) deleted. This is, IMO, is REALLY important. Griping is not always an effort to undermine or “take down” SOSEN and shouldn’t always be interpreted as such. SOSEN’s work is so incredibly important and the work of staff is appreciated!!!! You’re all doing a WONDERFUL job and I personally say “THANKS”!!!!

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 10:10:03 AM »
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Well said FG and EJ! That is why we put the contact staff button on top. I WANT AND NEED to know what my members think and want. As the CEO the buck stops with me. I REALLY REALLY try as hard as I can to make SOSEN “THE” place for support, help, education and advocacy.
We want your ideas and visons.I see many. many great things happening in the future. Last night for instance, SOSEN was on a conference call with othe RSO agencies putting together a 800 hot line number. It should be up and running in a month!!!

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 10:31:06 AM »
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You are so right FG. I think I made it pretty clear in my post what kind of destructive stuff I am talking about. We have always been able to and have been encouraged to voice our opinions and needs at SOSEN. Usually when something is asked for, it is quickly provided.
No one is applying any labels here, but we cannot have a free for all. That is all I am talking about…again, I think I made that pretty clear in my post. Each and every one of our members is valued.
I would have to write a book or two to list all the things that I am NOT referring to. That is why I listed only the things that I WAS referring to and I have great faith in our membership to know the difference. Any questions they might have can easily be addressed in a pm or the staff contact button. We have bent over backwards for member input such as putting in the suggestion box and the staff contact button. Our member are and will always be our main concern. The good of the many will always be weighed against the gripes of the few when decisions are made.
We have staff and we have a BOD. NO ONE HAS A VOTE that outweighs anyone else’s. We all answer to each other, as it should be

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 11:16:07 AM »
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So then am I to assume that before posts or threads are deleted, the decision will come from staff or BOD and not one member of staff?

Quote from: equal justice on May 29, 2008, 10:31:06 AM

We have staff and we have a BOD. NO ONE HAS A VOTE that outweighs anyone else’s. We all answer to each other, as it should be

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LetsGetReal
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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2008, 11:21:16 AM »
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That 800 number is great news. I know you have a lot of experience with hot line support. Being able to refer to food banks, agency’s and many other groups will certainly be a huge asset

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equal justice
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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2008, 11:36:08 AM »
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Flower girl,
I will be most happy to address any issue you personally have with me via pm. Please feel free to pm me.
We have moderators on this board as all forums do. We trust our staff members judgment and if we see a problem where someone is deleting willy nilly, it will be addressed post haste.
We cannot bog down this large forum with having to have a MAJOR discussion on every move. We would have analysis paralysis if that were to be the case and it does not make even a little bit of sense. Considering the amount of posting that goes on, the need to delete a post is VERY rare. If a post is deleted,very often we will notify that person and explain. Not always, but often.
If someone has a problem with a post being deleted, just punch up the staff contact button and let us all know, THEN it can be discussed and the problem addressed by the entire staff. Now THAT would make sense.
Linda and I are so busy that we often meet ourselves coming and going. We often spend upwards of 12 or more hours on the computer doing SOSEN stuff and trying to fit in our advocacy work. Again, sometimes the greater good must win out.
I do not know how much more SOSEN staff and BOD members can do to meet the needs of all of our members and let each member be heard. If you have suggestions please feel free to use the suggestion box or contact staff button, and of course, there are always pm’s.

When a member has a problem, that problem is addressed WITH that member. They may not like our answer, but we cannot satisfy everyone all the time.

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Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2008, 11:51:19 AM »
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I don’t believe anyone loves sosen more than me. Perhaps as much, but not more. My desires are for sosen and the cause that we fight for. That includes other groups and organizations who are active in their own right.
SoClear, for example has matured over the past year and are becoming a force to be reckoned with. They are educating and moving forward. That’s exciting.
State sites are IMO are vital to the national scene. Two more state sites are in the works as we speak. Things do take time and we are all becoming a force that will have an impact on this countries draconian laws
I believe the vast majority of members know and understand that. I’ve worked hard over the past year. Dedicated to the bone and there is no question about my loyalty, dedication and desires. No question.
I would NEVER intentionally bring harm to sosen. NEVER.

Unless a person is bashing an individual or another advocate organization, there should be no censorship or deleting posts and threads.

Members have an open forum and should never be afraid to express themselves, their ideas, thoughts, hopes and dreams.

The very idea that one should not suggest anything unless they are ready to impliment the idea goes against everything sosen stands for. Ideas are the heart of where we came from and where we’re going.

Freedom to express ourselves is vital to the very survival of this cause.

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flowergirl_1970
Member

Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2008, 12:01:08 PM »
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I’m questioning a procedure, not you!!!! And I think there should be a more solidified procedure in place than, what you’ve outlined below. This is the place for us to speak our voice and it might not always be positive, but this is a forum for expressing opinions … for those who otherwise wouldn’t have a voice at all. Sometimes that voice includes offering constructive feedback to staff, that should be ok!!! I think its an important issue and I’d really like staff to come up with some procedures. I just CAN”T imagine there are so many cases where a post has to be monitored or deleted that it would take up too much of staff’s time to discuss the situation and how to proceed. Or am I wrong and does staff delete a lot of posts?

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lindape54
SOSEN/CEO
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2008, 12:07:57 PM »
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Staff hardly ever deletes posts. We do have moles in here. And sometimes things are taken off the boards that PJ/AZ will take off and twist around. There are folks on this board that are targets of AZ and we have to keep that in mind. I will bring up this topic at our next staff meeting.
Linda

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flowergirl_1970
Member

Re: Confrontation vs. conversation
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2008, 12:13:27 PM »
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GREAT! I think that’s a really good idea. I understand the AZ/PJ issue totally!!

static

Re: Deleted Threads and posts
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 10:25:12 PM »
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For the sake of accuracy, I deleted the post from Lets calling SOA a PJ front. This was discussed and agreed upon in the staff meeting that same night.

billm

Re: Deleted Threads and posts
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2008, 10:29:52 PM »
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Yes, I was there too.

static

Re: Deleted Threads and posts
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2008, 11:28:33 PM »
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I wasn’t trying to be argumentative. I just wanted to make it clear that THAT post was agreed upon by everyone at the meeting, and wasn’t Cheryl’s fault. I was hoping it would remind us all that there was a time not so long ago that we were all in agreement about Lets.

lindape54
SOSEN/CEO
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: Deleted Threads and posts
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2008, 11:38:11 PM »
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LETS IS A PAIN IN THE ASS!
Lets IS NOT the problem!! He has done NOTHING since he was warned.

static

Re: Deleted Threads and posts
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 12:20:23 AM »
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Linda- what you just said is so patently and demonstrably not true that it baffles me. Remeber my post about the Karma thread? You know- the one where I was told I’m “escalating”? That happened TODAY.

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