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Re: The Acme Guys Posted by: “equal justice”

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equaljustice2

Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:03 am

Yes, this is some of the people who were attacking our group. They put in calender messages to repeat every hour that said that this group was closed due to pedophile activity. Linda caught what they were doing early and we were able, with much effort to ban, I think it was 3 different people. I say it took a lot of work because we have many groups and nothing was standardized in any of them. Sort of like the OLD groups. No particular person was a moderator in all the groups and we had to scramble around to get moderator privileges or find the person who was moderator there and ask them to delete these people or put them on moderation so they could not post. This was done very quickly, considering, except in one group where only Shirley was moderator. We asked and begged her to go there and moderate these guys and she REFUSED to do it. She was mad at us and said and I quote ” Why should I do anything to help you?” We continued to beg and said she would not be doing it for us, but for SOSEN. This did not move her either. The AZ people continued to have a field day and started putting up the Acme Cleaning Company stuff and it was really sickening. Finally CoolRich got Shirley to give him mod privileges for the group so he went in and gave them the boot.

We have come to the attention of PJ and their buddies at AZ on several occasions lately. Linda, Me, and a few others are on AZ front page due to the Ohio Event. But, Shirley posting our buisness in SOSEN and in Roar has caused AZ much delight. They have actual quotes of posts at ROAR and Shirley “outing” Letsgetreal because she was angry at him.

Also, if you look at SOSEN at Wikisposure, another AZ place, they quote Shirley’s bizzare Chronicle article:

“Jessica was not tortured and her death comes across more as an assisted suicide than a murder. There were no drugs or alcohol in her system and only her wrists were bound. She had not strained to try and free her arms. She could have easily kicked through the plastic bags but she did not. There were no tears, rips or even stretch marks. It looks as if she stepped into the bags of her own accord, squatted down and waited for death. There was no hand stretching upward as if asking foe help”

They talk about Shirley being KICKED OUT OF SOSEN…which she was not…she CHOSE to leave after being asked to step down as Chairman. She had already threatened to split SOSEN twice, WHY, she used that as a threat to get us to do only what she wanted. They would have none of this ammunition to use against us if Shirley did not take private things public.

I have reason to say these things today. Shirley has been threatening to take “her side” of her being asked to step down as Chairman PUBLIC! She has said she would wait until the Ohio Rally, There are reasons for this and they are not good ones. All this will do is give groups like AZ and PJ more ammunition and lots of giggles over us “perverted pedophiles” who cannot get along airing their dirty laundry in public. NOTHING POSITIVE CAN COME OF SUCH A MOVE SHIRLEY!

Shirley has been emailing our members from the beginning of this with “her side of the story” and “evidence” that when you know the truth, you know is worthless evidence. She has posted her “stuff” at Roar. She has had the members of her group here posting things to try to stir up trouble, for example Texas Reds latest thread about the OLD SOSEN GROUPS. As Red says, he was with Shirley and THIS SOSEN group almost from the beginning. HE KNOWS EXACTLY what happened with the old SOSEN groups and that they are WORTHLESS AND A MESS. He KNOWS that this was and IS ONLY BECAUSE OF SHIRLEY AND HOW SHE SET THEM UP and Yahoo. As Tim said, they tried and tried to get them straightened out and could NOT! RED KNOWS THIS! So WHY in the WORLD would he post that about the old groups? Because the Management at SOSEN now is doing abolutly NOTHING REAL that they can complain about so they have to make something up.

We have not responded publicly to Shirley going behind our backs and trying to steal our members with her misinformation. We have been trying to take the HIGH road. We will continue to try to do that. But if she continues on her quest and THREAT to take this PUBLIC, so that AZ AND PJ get a hold of private info…then it will ALL be public. The gloves will be off and we WILL make available ALL of the information we have and show you the REAL TRUTH OF THE SITUATION. We will show Shirleys multiple stories of when and why she changed to passwords to the Web site and locked everyone else out..we will SHOW what she was REALLY DOING DURING THIS TIME and that she was telling falsehoods even to her best friend Rich.

This is NOT something we want to do. Why? Because Shirley has done much good work for the cause, and because the airing of our dirty laundry can only be destructive. I don’t know what has happened to Shirley that has caused her behavior over the last few months, but it was getting more and more erratic, unpredictable, and dangerous to SOSEN. BUT we will not sit back and have our private info thrown out for all the AZ spies to put on their web site along with a bunch of lies. Staff and the BOD of SOSEN is working their butts off to clean up a organizational mess that Shirley left. We are working our butts off putting together the Library, preparing for the Ohio Event, doing American Chronicle articles, getting a REAL SOSEN bank account so that NO ONE PERSON HAS CONTROL OF ANYTHING, This is only a small part of what we do behind the scenes.

Shirley threatened to split SOSEN if her demands were not met. She followed thru on that by leaving and creating her own group and trying to lure our members away. She now has her own group and her own web site. There is NO reason for her to keep dragging this on and dragging staff thru the mud. The more she puts SOSEN in the public ( read AZ) eye, the more she hurts individual RFSO’s and it is a very REAL danger to SOSEN. Yahoo yanked her groups once before…we do not need her to continue a public fight and chance yahoo doing that again.

Shirley, you have done what you threatened to do, you left and started your own group. You have outed an innocent member, you have given it your best shot to tell your story by emails to our members and have them leave our group and join yours. You have already gotten SOSEN plenty of attention from AZ. Isn’t this enough for you? Why do you want to continue to hurt innocent people? The members of SOSEN have spoken about what kind of stuff they want on their forum and this divisiveness is NOT what they want. We try to honor that.

We have not removed you or your head honchos from SOSEN. That will be the next step if this foolishness continues. Take care of the New House that YOU decided to create and leave the one that YOU LEFT alone. We have 300 members here and you hurt each one of them while you try to hurt SOSEN.